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2023/06/16 Party LED Outfit Version 6: Self Contained Power System on LED Panels
π 2023-06-16 01:01 in Arduino, Clubbing, Electronics, Festivals
This is the untethered update to my v5 outfit. Please see LED Pants and Shirt v5 on ESP32 and Raspberry Pi with P2 RGBPanels and Wifi for how the entire setup works, and for the new LED strips on arma and legs, you can see Party LED Outfit Version 5.5: Flexible P15 LED Strings, LED Fanny Pack, Rez Inspired LED Goggles, LED Laces and LED Shoes

And if you want even more details and history >>> See this full article on the why and evolution of my LED outfit <<<

For all these years, my outfit has relied on a fanny pack filled with batteries, and with an unslightly tether from the fanny pack to the panels, bringing 2 feeds with 5V (as backup and to spread out the amps over 2 wires). That system worked for many years and would survive the failure of one of the 2 5V connections, or even the 16V connection meant to feed the rPi from its own power source stepped down to 5V on the panels (so that it doesn't see a voltage dip on the remote 5V rail when the display sare fairly bright). All in all, it worked, but the fanny pack tether and wires were cumbersome, and some security folks didn't like all the wires.

After switching to a new neopixel controller that is directly USB powered, it made more sense to power the panels locally and put the batteries on the panels:



For comparison, the old panel on the left only has the rPi and a small 16B to 5V converter and than relies on that tether cable to the white box on the left which has the DC-DC step down and the ESP32:


finished design with padding, power routing from 3 lipos or 2 USB attery packs
finished design with padding, power routing from 3 lipos or 2 USB attery packs

While this was not new for v6, made sure the camera still worked, it turns out to not be super reliable on batteries, but when it works, it's a crowd favorite:


The new version works like the old one, but with batteries directly attached to the panels, which in turn makes them much heavier, but oh well. Video with Lipos and DC-DC converter:

However, the more interesting upside is that I could also replace the 16V lips that get stepped down to 5V, with 5V USB Battery packs. the reason I never did that at the time is that the entire system takes way more than the maybe 2.5A you can get from USB packs on a good day. A somewhat cumbersome workaround to this problem is to use 2 USB battery packs with 2 independent outputs each, meaning 4 independent 5V busses able to put out up to 2.5A depending on the battery pack. So, I split my power system in 4:

  • front LED panels (3 panels) (1A or more depending on pattern)
  • rPi (about 1A depnding on CPU load, but must be a nice consistent 5V or the rPi will complain)
  • Neopixel string run by the ESP32 output if desired. This one might brown out but can be put on a separate USB pack to avoid taking other things down with it
  • Rear LED panels (also about 1A).
  • In total it means the whole thing uses about 3A at 5V, or 15W, which means 180Wh for 12h. In theory 2x 99Wh battery packs would work for 10H, but in real life, the first battery pack gets a lot more load since it runs the rPi, so it only really lasts about 7H before I have to replace it. Not ideal, but still nice that I can run from USB instead of lipos if needed:



    Video of the USB version:

    After some unfortunate feedback soon after I built the new version, I added a makeshift back cover with duct tape, mostly to hide the "scary" electronics, while still giving me accesss to them since this is still a prototype that needed occasional work and tweaks:


    Since the original design with lipos, the good news is that lipo chargers have finally become much smaller. They are now small enough that I can simply leave one in my travel backpack forever:


    Now I don't need this "custom made" battery box ;) which worked for its time, but didn't allow bigger batteries being an issue during 12H festivals (2 batteries wasn't enough), and was an issue during airport inspections when they wanted to "see inside the box":


    I however found out over time that some airports really didn't like to see the panels in X-Ray with batteries attached. All airports were fine with the panels on their own, and the batteries on their own, but if I left the batteries in the outfit, which honestly is a lot more convenient to me, some airports really freaked out in totally irrational ways and now complained about "too many wires" "looks like a bomb" and all that good stuff. The 2 airports that delayed me enough that I barely made my flight (bangkok and Ontario, CA), literally said they would have been fine if I had packed the batteries together and still carried everything I was carrying, just not plugged in (of course everything was off, and plugged in is actually safer since you don't have loose power connectors that could somehow short).
    So I'm not interested in missing a plane due to this and honestly nonsensical and irrational reactions (after all, no one said fear was rational or logical), so I eventually made a "battery pack" that I can more easily slide in and out before and after each flight:



    Oh yes, it's still home made looking, could somehow get/make a box for it, but if I do they'll want to open it to see inside, going back to the original box I had earlier, so I'm not sure there is a good way to win this. Also if I make it look too much like one battery instead of 3, they'll complain it's 290Wh (over the limit) instead of 3x 98Wh (under the limit).

    And to show how things evolved, this was the v3 outfit with neopixels and only 24x32 instead of 128x192, but much brighter. I did use v3 a couple of times again at day festivals, as it can be made bright enough to work in full daylight, but after doing this a few times (and that required extra batteries), I decided not to bother anymore, and skip the LED panel during day hours (I still have LEDs on arms and legs that can be made bright enough if need be):


    Separately, I often have to explain to people, that my outfit is actually a scaled down version of the RGBPanels you see on stage. Once you have the display, it can scale up:


    And another question I get is "how long does it last?". 2 batteries of my old 5Ah 4S lipos, was a bit short for an all night 12H festival (EDC), but back then I was also powering the LEDs on my arms and legs, which took an additional non trivial amount of power. For wiring ease, the LEDs are now on a separate battery, which allows the main system to run longer. I also upgraded the batteries from 5Ah to 6.7Ah. As a result, I found out a bit after the fact that actually 2 batteries would have been enough, since I put 3 as per my old setup, I ended up with a full runtime of just under 19H (I stopped the test before the batteries were totally drained since it's not great for them to do so). As I'm writing this, I now realize that with just 2 batteries, I could last 12.5H, which is still more than enough (and it would remove some weight, so I may want to consider that.

    310Wh out of my 3 batteries, more than I thought, and almost 19H
    310Wh out of my 3 batteries, more than I thought, and almost 19H

    because all meters have measurement errors, recharging pushed back in 20.4Ah instead of 21.2Ah which doesn't quite add up, but close enough
    because all meters have measurement errors, recharging pushed back in 20.4Ah instead of 21.2Ah which doesn't quite add up, but close enough

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